needed some more big ball bearings, but a question for someone whose done this and lubed them.

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needed some more big ball bearings, but a question for someone whose done this and lubed them.

Gene Heskett
Greetings all;

So 5.5 hours later if have two green PETG race ring pairs that use
crosman bb's for balls. For the output shaft of this drive, meaning the
potential load could run to a ton or so. 70mm ID, 53 bb's per bearing, I
intend to use two beside each other on the load end of the output shaft.

The bb's aren't exactly round and the plastic prints a bit lumpy, but I
think the lumps will go away once they are wrapped in alu that doesn't
have the elasticity, and that will mash the lumps down quite a bit.  Its
not like this is a high speed device anyway, with an estimated top speed
of 5 rpm.

But if it had some lube that was plastic compatible, it should last a bit
longer. And I've been told vegetable oils and greases are ok, but
petroleum stuff destroys PETG.

I have some crisco both liquid and solid at room temps, cooking stuff,
and some safflower oil, and some coconut oil.

So what is preferred?

Thanks for any advice.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: needed some more big ball bearings, but a question for someone whose done this and lubed them.

nophead
I think lithium grease is recommended for plastic.

On Fri, 16 Apr 2021, 23:40 Gene Heskett, <[hidden email]> wrote:
Greetings all;

So 5.5 hours later if have two green PETG race ring pairs that use
crosman bb's for balls. For the output shaft of this drive, meaning the
potential load could run to a ton or so. 70mm ID, 53 bb's per bearing, I
intend to use two beside each other on the load end of the output shaft.

The bb's aren't exactly round and the plastic prints a bit lumpy, but I
think the lumps will go away once they are wrapped in alu that doesn't
have the elasticity, and that will mash the lumps down quite a bit.  Its
not like this is a high speed device anyway, with an estimated top speed
of 5 rpm.

But if it had some lube that was plastic compatible, it should last a bit
longer. And I've been told vegetable oils and greases are ok, but
petroleum stuff destroys PETG.

I have some crisco both liquid and solid at room temps, cooking stuff,
and some safflower oil, and some coconut oil.

So what is preferred?

Thanks for any advice.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: needed some more big ball bearings, but a question for someone whose done this and lubed them.

Gene Heskett
On Friday 16 April 2021 18:44:50 nop head wrote:

> I think lithium grease is recommended for plastic.

I think the lithium would be ok, but isn't it carried in a petroleum
base? Further searhing the net, it seems to get an A+ rateing. I'll get
some tomorrow,  Thank you.

[...]

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Re: needed some more big ball bearings, but a question for someone whose done this and lubed them.

DanS
MoS2 (molybdenum disulfide) is also sometimes used as a lubricant, but again typically in a grease base.

Are you concerned that the grease will dissolve the plastic?

On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 7:53 PM Gene Heskett <[hidden email]> wrote:
On Friday 16 April 2021 18:44:50 nop head wrote:

> I think lithium grease is recommended for plastic.

I think the lithium would be ok, but isn't it carried in a petroleum
base? Further searhing the net, it seems to get an A+ rateing. I'll get
some tomorrow,  Thank you.

[...]

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Re: needed some more big ball bearings, but a question for someone whose done this and lubed them.

MostlyHarmless
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On everything plastic I use this:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0083R1FME/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_image?ie=UTF8&psc=1

It is designed for the Nylon gears in a Kitchen-Aid or a food slicer.
Food grade too.


Regards, Jan

On 4/16/21 6:40 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:

> Greetings all;
>
> So 5.5 hours later if have two green PETG race ring pairs that use
> crosman bb's for balls. For the output shaft of this drive, meaning the
> potential load could run to a ton or so. 70mm ID, 53 bb's per bearing, I
> intend to use two beside each other on the load end of the output shaft.
>
> The bb's aren't exactly round and the plastic prints a bit lumpy, but I
> think the lumps will go away once they are wrapped in alu that doesn't
> have the elasticity, and that will mash the lumps down quite a bit.  Its
> not like this is a high speed device anyway, with an estimated top speed
> of 5 rpm.
>
> But if it had some lube that was plastic compatible, it should last a bit
> longer. And I've been told vegetable oils and greases are ok, but
> petroleum stuff destroys PETG.
>
> I have some crisco both liquid and solid at room temps, cooking stuff,
> and some safflower oil, and some coconut oil.
>
> So what is preferred?
>
> Thanks for any advice.
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett
>


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Re: needed some more big ball bearings, but a question for someone whose done this and lubed them.

acwest
I use mineral oil a lot, for similar purposes 

On Fri, 16 Apr 2021, 21:46 Jan Wieck, <[hidden email]> wrote:
On everything plastic I use this:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0083R1FME/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_image?ie=UTF8&psc=1

It is designed for the Nylon gears in a Kitchen-Aid or a food slicer.
Food grade too.


Regards, Jan

On 4/16/21 6:40 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> Greetings all;
>
> So 5.5 hours later if have two green PETG race ring pairs that use
> crosman bb's for balls. For the output shaft of this drive, meaning the
> potential load could run to a ton or so. 70mm ID, 53 bb's per bearing, I
> intend to use two beside each other on the load end of the output shaft.
>
> The bb's aren't exactly round and the plastic prints a bit lumpy, but I
> think the lumps will go away once they are wrapped in alu that doesn't
> have the elasticity, and that will mash the lumps down quite a bit.  Its
> not like this is a high speed device anyway, with an estimated top speed
> of 5 rpm.
>
> But if it had some lube that was plastic compatible, it should last a bit
> longer. And I've been told vegetable oils and greases are ok, but
> petroleum stuff destroys PETG.
>
> I have some crisco both liquid and solid at room temps, cooking stuff,
> and some safflower oil, and some coconut oil.
>
> So what is preferred?
>
> Thanks for any advice.
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett
>


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Re: needed some more big ball bearings, but a question for someone whose done this and lubed them.

MostlyHarmless
On 4/16/21 9:58 PM, A. Craig West wrote:
> I use mineral oil a lot, for similar purposes

I use light mineral oil for fast moving parts. Something like Wahl hair
clipper oil, which is the exact same stuff that is used for sewing
machines. It needs to be applied more often though.

This application looks more like a grease type lubricant is best.


Regards, Jan


>
> On Fri, 16 Apr 2021, 21:46 Jan Wieck, <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
>     On everything plastic I use this:
>
>     https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0083R1FME/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_image?ie=UTF8&psc=1
>     <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0083R1FME/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_image?ie=UTF8&psc=1>
>
>     It is designed for the Nylon gears in a Kitchen-Aid or a food slicer.
>     Food grade too.
>
>
>     Regards, Jan
>
>     On 4/16/21 6:40 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
>      > Greetings all;
>      >
>      > So 5.5 hours later if have two green PETG race ring pairs that use
>      > crosman bb's for balls. For the output shaft of this drive,
>     meaning the
>      > potential load could run to a ton or so. 70mm ID, 53 bb's per
>     bearing, I
>      > intend to use two beside each other on the load end of the output
>     shaft.
>      >
>      > The bb's aren't exactly round and the plastic prints a bit lumpy,
>     but I
>      > think the lumps will go away once they are wrapped in alu that
>     doesn't
>      > have the elasticity, and that will mash the lumps down quite a
>     bit.  Its
>      > not like this is a high speed device anyway, with an estimated
>     top speed
>      > of 5 rpm.
>      >
>      > But if it had some lube that was plastic compatible, it should
>     last a bit
>      > longer. And I've been told vegetable oils and greases are ok, but
>      > petroleum stuff destroys PETG.
>      >
>      > I have some crisco both liquid and solid at room temps, cooking
>     stuff,
>      > and some safflower oil, and some coconut oil.
>      >
>      > So what is preferred?
>      >
>      > Thanks for any advice.
>      >
>      > Cheers, Gene Heskett
>      >
>
>
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lar3ry
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Love that stuff. It also comes in tubes, if you need smaller quantities.


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Re: needed some more big ball bearings, but a question for someone whose done this and lubed them.

Gene Heskett
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On Friday 16 April 2021 18:44:50 nop head wrote:

> I think lithium grease is recommended for plastic.
>
I forgot, I had bought, from fleabay, some sort of a thing that claimed
to be plastic grease, cost me $7.50 for a little bitty plastic jar about
half full of it. Looks a lot like criso in a tub. About 6 or 7 tip of
toothpicks worth of it and some exercise to distribute it, and 90% of
the friction is gone. I should relabel it as IFM?

The only english makings on the label is "SW-92SA" if that means anything
to anybody. Two other lines above that look like two different dialects
of the pictographs used in Chinese.  Needless to say, my 'merican
english keyboard can't do those.

Thanks nop-head.

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Re: needed some more big ball bearings, but a question for someone whose done this and lubed them.

Gene Heskett
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On Friday 16 April 2021 20:40:16 Daniel Shriver wrote:

> MoS2 (molybdenum disulfide) is also sometimes used as a lubricant, but
> again typically in a grease base.
>
I have some, both as pure powder, and in a heavy grease base you'll find
it in the drawers of anyone who has worn out the number of rifle barrels
I have at the rifle range, I am also a reloader, and have used up 4
barrels in old meat in the pot. Or AT&T as one of my boys calls it, cuz
it can reach out and touch something. It brought home a nice buck once
from 640 yards. But I haven't tried that again as it was not a quick
kill, no bullet expansion left at that distance so he stood there and
bled to death. He did die right where he was standing but it took too
long, not a humane kill. Lesson learned.

And today I read some warnings during my net searching about it getting
into the cracks and crannies in printed stuff and delaminating it
gradually.  Both that and the finely milled graphites carry the same
warnings, saying don't use. So I'll leave that in my reloading benches
drawer.

> Are you concerned that the grease will dissolve the plastic?

Yes.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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DanS
Well, if you want to shoot animals humanely- a camera can't be beaten.

Graphite and MoS2 have the same physical structure (planar sheets of hexagons) and they work as lubricants because those sheets can slide past each other.  MoS2 big selling point is that it can work at temperatures that would cause carbon-based lubricants to burn.

On Sat, Apr 17, 2021 at 12:44 AM Gene Heskett <[hidden email]> wrote:
On Friday 16 April 2021 20:40:16 Daniel Shriver wrote:

> MoS2 (molybdenum disulfide) is also sometimes used as a lubricant, but
> again typically in a grease base.
>
I have some, both as pure powder, and in a heavy grease base you'll find
it in the drawers of anyone who has worn out the number of rifle barrels
I have at the rifle range, I am also a reloader, and have used up 4
barrels in old meat in the pot. Or AT&T as one of my boys calls it, cuz
it can reach out and touch something. It brought home a nice buck once
from 640 yards. But I haven't tried that again as it was not a quick
kill, no bullet expansion left at that distance so he stood there and
bled to death. He did die right where he was standing but it took too
long, not a humane kill. Lesson learned.

And today I read some warnings during my net searching about it getting
into the cracks and crannies in printed stuff and delaminating it
gradually.  Both that and the finely milled graphites carry the same
warnings, saying don't use. So I'll leave that in my reloading benches
drawer.

> Are you concerned that the grease will dissolve the plastic?

Yes.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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