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nophead
I noticed some recent discussions seemed a bit disjointed and just found that a lot of messages had been classified as spam by Google. This seems to be a new phenomenon. In the past it has just been a few users. Is it something to do with the new mailing list software?

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On 10.04.21 16:11, nop head wrote:
> I noticed some recent discussions seemed a bit disjointed and
> just found that a lot of messages had been classified as spam
> by Google.

Yep, not just Google, I'm getting that issue on GMX too. With
the old mailing list server it was no issue, having the mailing
list address setup in mail preferences made sure it's ending
up in the inbox. That does not seem to help with the new server
unfortunately.

ciao,
  Torsten.
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Re: OpenSCAD messages going into gmail spam folder

Michele Denber
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On 04-10-2021 10:11 AM, nop head wrote:
> I noticed some recent discussions seemed a bit disjointed and just
> found that a lot of messages had been classified as spam by Google.
> This seems to be a new phenomenon. In the past it has just been a few
> users. Is it something to do with the new mailing list software?
I've noticed that recently my mail provider has begun classifying almost
90% of messages on this list as spam.  And it's always just this list. 
This didn't used to happen.

             - Michele


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caggius
Just looked in may Gmail spam folder - and found a few missing threads from OpenScad - not sure why I get some threads and not others….

> On 10 Apr 2021, at 16:26, Michele Denber <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> On 04-10-2021 10:11 AM, nop head wrote:
>> I noticed some recent discussions seemed a bit disjointed and just found that a lot of messages had been classified as spam by Google. This seems to be a new phenomenon. In the past it has just been a few users. Is it something to do with the new mailing list software?
> I've noticed that recently my mail provider has begun classifying almost 90% of messages on this list as spam.  And it's always just this list.  This didn't used to happen.
>
>             - Michele
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nophead
I get some threads with a few posts missing rather than whole threads missing.

On Sat, 10 Apr 2021 at 16:33, Bob Carter <[hidden email]> wrote:
Just looked in may Gmail spam folder - and found a few missing threads from OpenScad - not sure why I get some threads and not others….

> On 10 Apr 2021, at 16:26, Michele Denber <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> On 04-10-2021 10:11 AM, nop head wrote:
>> I noticed some recent discussions seemed a bit disjointed and just found that a lot of messages had been classified as spam by Google. This seems to be a new phenomenon. In the past it has just been a few users. Is it something to do with the new mailing list software?
> I've noticed that recently my mail provider has begun classifying almost 90% of messages on this list as spam.  And it's always just this list.  This didn't used to happen.
>
>             - Michele
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caggius
You could be right I do don’t check thoroughly

On 10 Apr 2021, at 16:39, nop head <[hidden email]> wrote:

I get some threads with a few posts missing rather than whole threads missing.

On Sat, 10 Apr 2021 at 16:33, Bob Carter <[hidden email]> wrote:
Just looked in may Gmail spam folder - and found a few missing threads from OpenScad - not sure why I get some threads and not others….

> On 10 Apr 2021, at 16:26, Michele Denber <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> On 04-10-2021 10:11 AM, nop head wrote:
>> I noticed some recent discussions seemed a bit disjointed and just found that a lot of messages had been classified as spam by Google. This seems to be a new phenomenon. In the past it has just been a few users. Is it something to do with the new mailing list software?
> I've noticed that recently my mail provider has begun classifying almost 90% of messages on this list as spam.  And it's always just this list.  This didn't used to happen.
>
>             - Michele
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On 2021-04-10 16:11, nop head wrote:
> I noticed some recent discussions seemed a bit disjointed and just
> found that a lot of messages had been classified as spam by Google.
> This seems to be a new phenomenon. In the past it has just been a few
> users. Is it something to do with the new mailing list software?

If you give your mail to Google they own you. I see no such issues. I
use an independent email provider.

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doug.moen
I use pobox.com as my email service provider and I am not seeing this issue.

On Sat, Apr 10, 2021, at 11:51 AM, [hidden email] wrote:

> On 2021-04-10 16:11, nop head wrote:
> > I noticed some recent discussions seemed a bit disjointed and just
> > found that a lot of messages had been classified as spam by Google.
> > This seems to be a new phenomenon. In the past it has just been a few
> > users. Is it something to do with the new mailing list software?
>
> If you give your mail to Google they own you. I see no such issues. I
> use an independent email provider.
>
> Carsten Arnholm
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On a similar note, I've also recently noticed that my email client (Spark) has been classifying  replies to a thread on this list as a separate thread from the original message, I presume because the "Re:" is after "[OpenSCAD]", rather than vice versa. Anyone else seeing the same?
On Apr 10, 2021, 07:20 -0700, Torsten Paul <[hidden email]>, wrote:
On 10.04.21 16:11, nop head wrote:
I noticed some recent discussions seemed a bit disjointed and
just found that a lot of messages had been classified as spam
by Google.

Yep, not just Google, I'm getting that issue on GMX too. With
the old mailing list server it was no issue, having the mailing
list address setup in mail preferences made sure it's ending
up in the inbox. That does not seem to help with the new server
unfortunately.

ciao,
Torsten.
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Re: OpenSCAD messages going into gmail spam folder

leebc
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I have a non gmail spam filter and I noticed a lot of messages getting
tagged right after the mail list software migration.
It's not everyone, but still a bunch of people.


As I recall, the same thing happened last time the listserv was upgraded.

I've just been marking senders as not spam.



Thus nop head hast written on Sat, Apr 10, 2021 at 03:11:31PM +0100, and, according to prophecy, it shall come to pass that:
> I noticed some recent discussions seemed a bit disjointed and just found that a
> lot of messages had been classified as spam by Google. This seems to be a new
> phenomenon. In the past it has just been a few users. Is it something to do
> with the new mailing list software?

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Re: OpenSCAD messages going into gmail spam folder

Gene Heskett
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On Saturday 10 April 2021 10:20:22 Torsten Paul wrote:

> On 10.04.21 16:11, nop head wrote:
> > I noticed some recent discussions seemed a bit disjointed and
> > just found that a lot of messages had been classified as spam
> > by Google.
>
> Yep, not just Google, I'm getting that issue on GMX too. With
> the old mailing list server it was no issue, having the mailing
> list address setup in mail preferences made sure it's ending
> up in the inbox. That does not seem to help with the new server
> unfortunately.
>
I don't get anything from gmail other than what other users have sent
thru them to mailing lists.

But I also use spamassassin and its suddenly taken a serious dislike to
several of the lists I subcribe to. Its a right PITA, even occasionally
nailing a plain text message based on the tom-foolery in the headers.

That, frankly has gotten totally out of hand just in the last 90 days.

> ciao,
>   Torsten.
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I'm looking into this.
I always had a small number flagged, I haven't seen a change in frequency since the change tho.

I had 3 in my Gmail spam folder today.
They all said:
"Why is this message in spam? It is similar to messages that were identified as spam in the past."

Which is not helpful, but I think it would help if everyone could select list messages and click 'not spam'.

I have found that one, out of 94, blacklists had flagged the IP of our provider.

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Just to provide another data point. I was previously running Pegasus Mail on a Windows 7 machine, and recently started switching over to Linux (Ubuntu MATE), and have been running Evolution email for about a month or more. All email arriving from this list is filtered into its own directory, and I have not had any show as spam in my local junk folder, nor have any been flagged by my ISP as spam.

On Sat, 2021-04-10 at 17:00 -0700, MichaelAtOz wrote:
I'm looking into this.
I always had a small number flagged, I haven't seen a change in frequency since the change tho.

I had 3 in my Gmail spam folder today.
They all said:
"Why is this message in spam? It is similar to messages that were identified as spam in the past."

Which is not helpful, but I think it would help if everyone could select list messages and click 'not spam'.

I have found that one, out of 94, blacklists had flagged the IP of our provider.

OpenSCAD Admin - email* me if you need anything, or if I've done something stupid...
* on the Forum, click on my MichaelAtOz label, there is a link to email me.

Unless specifically shown otherwise above, my contribution is in the Public Domain;
to the extent possible under law, I have waived all copyright and related or neighbouring rights to this work.
Obviously inclusion of works of previous authors is not included in the above.


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RobWLakes
Same here, updated to latest Ubuntu Mate 6months ago, and running Thunderbird with many filter tests, and OpenScad filters into correct folder. Identified SPAM is unopened and deleted from server, deleted locally on exit.

Works ok apart from things like BitCoin spam that goes to great lengths to confuse filters with weird fonts and "spellings".
Cheers, RobW

On 11 April 2021 2:09:29 pm AEST, larry <[hidden email]> wrote:
Just to provide another data point. I was previously running Pegasus Mail on a Windows 7 machine, and recently started switching over to Linux (Ubuntu MATE), and have been running Evolution email for about a month or more. All email arriving from this list is filtered into its own directory, and I have not had any show as spam in my local junk folder, nor have any been flagged by my ISP as spam.

On Sat, 2021-04-10 at 17:00 -0700, MichaelAtOz wrote:
I'm looking into this.
I always had a small number flagged, I haven't seen a change in frequency since the change tho.

I had 3 in my Gmail spam folder today.
They all said:
"Why is this message in spam? It is similar to messages that were identified as spam in the past."

Which is not helpful, but I think it would help if everyone could select list messages and click 'not spam'.

I have found that one, out of 94, blacklists had flagged the IP of our provider.

OpenSCAD Admin - email* me if you need anything, or if I've done something stupid...
* on the Forum, click on my MichaelAtOz label, there is a link to email me.

Unless specifically shown otherwise above, my contribution is in the Public Domain;
to the extent possible under law, I have waived all copyright and related or neighbouring rights to this work.
Obviously inclusion of works of previous authors is not included in the above.


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Arne Köhn
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He headers of your mail state (on my end):

Authentication-Results: mm2.emwd.com;
        dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="J+THZxuw";
        dkim-atps=neutral

Original-Authentication-Results: mm2.emwd.com;
        dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="J+THZxuw";
        dkim-atps=neutral
X-Rspamd-Bar: -
X-Rspamd-Report: R_DKIM_REJECT(1) CTYPE_MIXED_BOGUS(1) MAILLIST(-0.2) BAYES_HAM(-2.976945) MIME_GOOD(-0.1) HAS_LIST_UNSUB(-0.01) DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.1)

Note the verification failure on the mm2.emwd.com host and R_DKIM_REJECT
as a spam indicator.

I don’t have time to look at it in detail but my hypothesis would be
that the mailing list software does not handle DKIM in a good way;
Russell Coker wrote about this some time ago:
https://doc.coker.com.au/internet/dkim-and-mailing-lists/

A quick glance showed that this is only a problem with some of the
mails.

Best
  Arne
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