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Minor bug or odd design?

Terrypin
I'm finding the six icons for different views quite handy. But remembering which does what would be easier if they were in the more logical order of CTRL + 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9. Not 7, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9.



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Re: Minor bug or odd design?

Msquare
I just hammer on them until I get a view I like. Never managed to remember anything about them. well, except the perspective/orthagonal switch.

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fre. 18. jun. 2021 16.41 skrev Terrypin <[hidden email]>:
I'm finding the six icons for different views quite handy. But remembering which does what would be easier if they were in the more logical order of CTRL + 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9. Not 7, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9.



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Re: Minor bug or odd design?

lar3ry
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On Fri, 2021-06-18 at 07:40 -0700, Terrypin wrote:
> I'm finding the six icons for different views quite handy. But
> remembering which does what would be easier if they were in the more
> logical order of CTRL + 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9. Not 7, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9.

If you're using the icons, why not just look at the icon itself? They
are pretty easy to figure out.

If you are using the keyboard, just remember, starting at CTRL+4, top,
bottom, left, right, front, back.



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Re: Minor bug or odd design?

Terrypin
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I guess it's just a matter of personal preference and habit. Rather than 'look for icon, move mouse, click it', I'd find it faster to just tap the keys. Easy enough if I memorise something like 'Top-Bottom, Left-Right, Front-Back', and they were activated by Ctrl plus '4-5, 6-7, 8-9'.

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Re: Minor bug or odd design?

Troberg
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Suggestion: Have the keys so that they make sense on the numpad arrows.

That would mean, in order: 6, 8, 2, 4, 1, 9.

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Re: Minor bug or odd design?

Terrypin
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But that’s not the order they’re in ;-)

EDIT: That was a reply to lar3ry, not to myself.

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Re: Minor bug or odd design?

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Plans are afoot to allow setting keyboard shortcuts, but resources are limited.
I doubt there would be support for changes to the current, long-held, default definitions.
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Re: Minor bug or odd design?

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The change I suggested would not need any remapping. Simply moving that leftmost icon (Ctrl+4) to the correct position in the sequence: top, bottom, left, right, front, back. At present it’s the only exception.

I’ve remapped mine (with an external tool, Macro Express Pro), to use the Numpad keys. As I’m new to OpenSCAD I don’t yet have the habit and ‘muscle memory’ of long term users.

For anyone who considers similar remapping, I was warned that Shift+Ctrl plus the Numpad keys are “reserved for Windows features”. (I already have Ctrl with the Numpad keys assigned to other tasks.) But so far I’ve seen no negative consequences.

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Re: Minor bug or odd design?

lar3ry
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Terrypin wrote
But that’s not the order they’re in ;-)
EDIT: That was a reply to lar3ry, not to myself.
But that IS the order they're in if you are using the keyboard.


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Re: Minor bug or odd design?

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There are many images, in the wild, with it as is, so there is no good reason to make all that history invalid.

It is good to have new ideas from new users, but...backward compatibility.

 

> the correct position in the sequence: top, bottom, left, right, front, back

 

For your definition of 'correct'. The current situation is approaching a decade old.

 

 


From: Terrypin [mailto:[hidden email]]
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Subject: [OpenSCAD] Re: Minor bug or odd design?

 

The change I suggested would not need any remapping. Simply moving that leftmost icon (Ctrl+4) to the correct position in the sequence: top, bottom, left, right, front, back. At present it’s the only exception.

I’ve remapped mine (with an external tool, Macro Express Pro), to use the Numpad keys. As I’m new to OpenSCAD I don’t yet have the habit and ‘muscle memory’ of long term users.

For anyone who considers similar remapping, I was warned that Shift+Ctrl plus the Numpad keys are “reserved for Windows features”. (I already have Ctrl with the Numpad keys assigned to other tasks.) But so far I’ve seen no negative consequences.

Terry


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Re: Minor bug or odd design?

lar3ry
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Troberg wrote
Suggestion: Have the keys so that they make sense on the numpad arrows.
That would mean, in order: 6, 8, 2, 4, 1, 9.
???
So:  right, back, front, left, bottom, top?
or is that something else?

I think better, assuming a user has a numpad, would be either;
4, 6, 2, 8, 9, 3

giving: left, right, back, front, top, bottom

Best of all,of course, would be the ability to map it to whatever works for you.

I'd tackle it myself, but at my age, I really don't feel like learning yet another language.

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Re: Minor bug or odd design?

Terrypin
Starting with Top, I chose these, all accompanied by Ctrl+Shift with my left hand:

8 = Top, 2 = Bottom, 4 = Left, 6 = Right, 1 = Front, 9 = Back


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Re: Minor bug or odd design?

lar3ry
Terrypin wrote
Starting with Top, I chose these, all accompanied by Ctrl+Shift with my left
hand:

8 = Top, 2 = Bottom, 4 = Left, 6 = Right, 1 = Front, 9 = Back
I gather it works well for you.
The reason I suggested my way was that 9 and 3 are also (Pg)up and (Pg)down.
That is, if I had a numpad.



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Re: Minor bug or odd design?

Troberg
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lar3ry wrote
Troberg wrote
> Suggestion: Have the keys so that they make sense on the numpad arrows.
> That would mean, in order: 6, 8, 2, 4, 1, 9.

???
So:  right, back, front, left, bottom, top?
or is that something else?
Basically, the arrows on the numpad would point in the direction the eye is looking from, the side of the object that the viewer would be.

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Re: Minor bug or odd design?

Terrypin
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Yes, those last two, Front and Back, were the ones I hesitated over. Number ONE, up front? Two diagonal extremes, 1 and  9 retaining some symmetry? The label significances were tempting, but I’d already concluded that internal debate about the other four, which contradict the direction of the arrows!

Anyway, I’m half expecting that ‘reserved for Windows’ thing to bite me at some point soon. If so will have to either search for a fresh set of six ‘meaningful’ hotkeys or learn to love the existing OpenSCAD configuration.

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