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Is something shady going on at Bountysource?
Has it ever paid out? Has any prepaid Bounties ever resulted in a improvement of OpenSCAD?? Can we have some guidance from head developers what issues that can benefit from Bounties so we all can bandwagon and pile up stacks for some actual progress? If someone put Bounties on a unsolvable issue Bountysource take the money and its virtually guaranteed to never pay out. Can we have some clarification what issues will never happen at any amount? For now, I rather do something like a monthly PayPal donation and trust OpenSCAD to spend it well at will. ////////////////////////////////// ////////////////////////////////// ////////////////////////////////// date: May 15, 2020, 1:59 PM subject: Bounty posted for Improve preview rendering performance (Implement VBO renderer) [$125] on openscad/openscad mailed-by: email.bountysource.com A bounty has just been posted on a project you follow, openscad/openscad: $25 on Improve preview rendering performance (Implement VBO renderer) [$125] by oysteinkrog. The bounty will be awarded to the developer who successfully closes out this issue. You can view the issue and increase the bounty at https://www.bountysource.com/issues/91399377-improve-preview-rendering-performance-implement-vbo-renderer Thanks, The Bountysource Team ////////////////////////////////// date: May 15, 2020, 5:28 PM subject: Bounty increased for "Improve preview rendering performance (Implement VBO renderer) [$125]" on "openscad/openscad" mailed-by: email.bountysource.com The bounty on “Improve preview rendering performance (Implement VBO renderer) [$125]” has increased to $125: MichaelAtOz increased the bounty by $50. The bounty will be awarded to the developer who successfully closes out this issue. Is the bounty too low? Set a bounty goal to give the community a funding target! View the issue, increase the bounty, or set a bounty goal here: https://www.bountysource.com/issues/91399377-improve-preview-rendering-performance-implement-vbo-renderer ////////////////////////////////// date: May 16, 2020, 10:51 PM subject: Bounty increased for "Improve preview rendering performance (Implement VBO renderer) [$125]" on "openscad/openscad" mailed-by: email.bountysource.com The bounty on “Improve preview rendering performance (Implement VBO renderer) [$125]” has increased to $125: KjellMorgenstern increased the bounty by $50. The bounty will be awarded to the developer who successfully closes out this issue. Is the bounty too low? Set a bounty goal to give the community a funding target! View the issue, increase the bounty, or set a bounty goal here: https://www.bountysource.com/issues/91399377-improve-preview-rendering-performance-implement-vbo-renderer Thanks, The Bountysource Team ////////////////////////////////// -- Sent from: http://forum.openscad.org/ _______________________________________________ OpenSCAD mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org |
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> Is something shady going on at Bountysource? I don't believe so. Their support is,
well...poor, in terms of web site problems etc. But it happens slowly. > Has it ever paid out? Yes, paid bounties $714 Other stats: active bounties $100 active bounty 1 bounty hunters 25 [not very active] total bounties on our issues $2,320 Most of that is Multi-threaded Geometry
rendering [$1,060] (discussed below) > Has any prepaid Bounties ever resulted in a improvement of OpenSCAD?? Recent Activity Sharma-Hrishabh
was awarded the bounty on Feature request - When Editor Pane hidden add Export
STL Icon to preview icon list ($10). OpenSCAD
1 month ago Sharma-Hrishabh
submitted a claim for Feature request - When Editor Pane hidden add Export STL
Icon to preview icon list ($10). OpenSCAD
1 month ago Fat-Zer
started a solution on Output same info from GUI via command line ($50). OpenSCAD
2 months ago leebradley
started a solution on Output same info from GUI via command line ($50). OpenSCAD
9 months ago ixil
started a solution on cheatsheet or part of documentation should be part of app
to work in offline mode ($25). OpenSCAD
10 months ago thehans
was awarded the bounty on Preferences CGAL & Polyset cache size limit
($15). OpenSCAD
1 year ago thehans
submitted a claim for Preferences CGAL & Polyset cache size limit ($15). OpenSCAD
1 year ago kintel
was awarded the bounty on OpenSCAD has switched to French for macOS Sierra
($9). OpenSCAD
1 year ago kintel
submitted a claim for OpenSCAD has switched to French for macOS Sierra ($9). OpenSCAD
1 year ago t-paul
was awarded the bounty on Initial release of 3D Mouse/joystick support ($50). OpenSCAD
1 year ago t-paul
submitted a claim for Initial release of 3D Mouse/joystick support ($50). OpenSCAD
1 year ago t-paul
was awarded the bounty on Feature request: echo function for debugging ($50). OpenSCAD
1 year ago t-paul
submitted a claim for Feature request: echo function for debugging ($50). OpenSCAD
1 year ago t-paul
started a solution on Feature request: echo function for debugging ($0). OpenSCAD
1 year ago TLC123
contributed $120 to OpenSCAD. OpenSCAD
1 year ago thehans
was awarded the bounty on STL export, wrong facet normal values ($50). OpenSCAD
1 year ago thehans
submitted a claim for STL export, wrong facet normal values ($50). OpenSCAD
1 year ago JustVic
was awarded the bounty on Noise when rendering complete #featurerequest ($75). OpenSCAD
1 year ago JustVic
submitted a claim for Noise when rendering complete #featurerequest ($75). OpenSCAD
1 year ago JustVic
started a solution on Noise when rendering complete #featurerequest ($0). OpenSCAD
2 years ago kintel
was awarded the bounty on List comprehension and let() issues ($25). OpenSCAD
2 years ago kintel
submitted a claim for List comprehension and let() issues ($25). OpenSCAD
2 years ago OpenSCAD
2 years ago [NOTE this was used for testing bountysource] OpenSCAD
2 years ago OpenSCAD
2 years ago > Can we have some guidance from head developers what issues that can benefit > from Bounties so we all can bandwagon and pile up stacks for some actual > progress? Discussed below. (just my opinion tho) > If someone put Bounties on a unsolvable issue Bountysource take the money > and its virtually guaranteed to never pay out. No. If necessary 'we', with agreement of
backers of course, can claim such a bounty to redistribute such 'dead-end' funds to
others. I did that once on one of mine. > Can we have some clarification what issues will never happen at any amount? > Difficult to say, some hungry dev may turn
up one day... As this is Open Source there are opportunities
for many things to be done, if someone has the skills and motivation. There are
some things which go against the 'vibe', but from what I see such are pointedly
commented on. Others may be best achieved with complementary language
improvements, but such also needs devs (e.g. Function literals, and structured
class like concepts). > For now, I rather do something like a monthly PayPal donation and trust > OpenSCAD to spend it well at will. > I'm probably commenting here above my pay
grade, given I don't know the hosting costs etc but... I'm sure such a donation would not be
refused, but OpenSCAD is unfortunately reasonably funded. The Bountysource balance (unallocated) is
health. So a PayPal donation is probably better than Bountysource, more
flexible. I said unfortunately, because as you have
concluded money doesn't necessarily attract developers. I, and others, backed large amounts to the
multi-threading issue, it has attracted two attempts. The first didn't even want the money, as
it would conflict with his employment practices. That issue still seems to require some
CGAL improvements, the last attempt has cache corruption issues. So even $1000
is not attracting devs like moths to a light. That 'reasonably funded' is not
able to throw $000's at many issues. Core developers are doing it out of 'love'
or some other illogical bent. ;) These core developers do it in their spare
time, but have little of that. Developers do what they think is
necessary, and of interest. I just help out, where I can, to help this
interesting community. I suspect the particular mix in OpenSCAD;
OpenCSG, CGAL, Clipper, Qt, C, C++, 3D intricacies, and the mix of development
support tools, is a skill set hard to find. (I'm no expert on the skills field) So Bountysource is not like a consulting
contract. Perhaps making some larger bounties may
attract someone. It is hard to know what value to put on issues. The other thing is that Bounty issues need
to be better spec'ed, to make it clear what is to be done, and acceptance criteria
etc. But that also needs some of those developer skills. Bountysource is, at face value, a neat
idea, but difficult in reality. Happy to expand on anything if needed. (in
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In reply to this post by TLC123
BountySource seems to be a bit broken from time to time,
and that happened even before they were taken over by CanYa. Specifically the github integration and notifications are very delayed currently. I'm seeing updates sometimes weeks after issues are created. Also parts of the website don't work for me in Firefox, Chrome looks a bit better. I got those 3 confusing mails for issue #3309 too, which has strange data, likely caused by the delay sending it out, but the total value seems to match with what actually happened. On 17.05.20 07:43, TLC123 wrote: > Has any prepaid Bounties ever resulted in a improvement > of OpenSCAD?? I think that's a clear yes. > Can we have some guidance from head developers what issues > that can benefit from Bounties so we all can bandwagon and > pile up stacks for some actual progress? To me it seems that bounties work better for smaller and isolated changes where people can come in without the need to dig into the code for month and then work on the topic for half a year. Michael has outlined reasons in more detail already, I would not have much more to add. > For now, I rather do something like a monthly PayPal > donation and trust OpenSCAD to spend it well at will. Thanks, money not bound to a specific issue helps paying for hosting (plus we have a small server donated as well). Maybe at some point we could actually pay for some very focused topics similar to how Google Summer of Code and Google Season of Docs work where the money comes as stipend from Google, but there's 3 month of work done based on a project plan defined upfront. The plan here is to put this on a more stable platform, like https://opencollective.com/ or something similar. If anyone has suggestions on ways to do that, that would be very welcome. Things are moving slowly as it requires time and that's always a bit scarce. ciao, Torsten. _______________________________________________ OpenSCAD mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org
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