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How get OpenSCAD running on macOS Catalina?

Paul Haeberli
I'm using Catalina 10.15 Beta.

I installed OpenSCAD, but when I try to run it, Catalina will not run it.

A dialog box appears that says:

    "OpenSCAD.app" can't be opened because its integrity cannot be verified.

    The software needs to be updated. Contact the developer for more
information.

It has two buttons

"Move To Trash" and "Cancel"


I went to System Preferences/Security & Privacy/General

and for the "Allow apps downloaded from:" selector I have selected
"Anywhere".


Anty hints appreciated!





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Re: How get OpenSCAD running on macOS Catalina?

tobject
Nah, just install Windows :))

On 7/15/19, Paul Haeberli <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I'm using Catalina 10.15 Beta.
>
> I installed OpenSCAD, but when I try to run it, Catalina will not run it.
>
> A dialog box appears that says:
>
>     "OpenSCAD.app" can't be opened because its integrity cannot be
> verified.
>
>     The software needs to be updated. Contact the developer for more
> information.
>
> It has two buttons
>
> "Move To Trash" and "Cancel"
>
>
> I went to System Preferences/Security & Privacy/General
>
> and for the "Allow apps downloaded from:" selector I have selected
> "Anywhere".
>
>
> Anty hints appreciated!
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: How get OpenSCAD running on macOS Catalina?

Paul Haeberli
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I posted a bug report with Apple about this.  It is probably macOS Catalina
bug.

Maybe they fix soon. I have an older mac with an older macOS and it runs

fine there.





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Re: How get OpenSCAD running on macOS Catalina?

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On Jul 15, 2019, at 13:23, Paul Haeberli <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> I'm using Catalina 10.15 Beta.
>
> I installed OpenSCAD, but when I try to run it, Catalina will not run it.
>
> A dialog box appears that says:
>
>    "OpenSCAD.app" can't be opened because its integrity cannot be verified.
>
>    The software needs to be updated. Contact the developer for more
> information.
>
Sometimes there will be more info in the system console; open Console.app and check if there are any entries for OpenSCAD under System Reports.

Do you know if 10.15 Beta is possible/easy to install in VirtualBox on a Mojave MacOS host?

 -Marius


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Re: How get OpenSCAD running on macOS Catalina?

kintel
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Oh, btw., are you the same Paul Haeberli who used to work at SGI?
I used a font with that name as a terminal font for the longest time in my IRIX and early post-IRIX life :)

 -Marius


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Re: How get OpenSCAD running on macOS Catalina?

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How to install 

1. Get hold of the Catalina installer
2. get this app -
3. Use it to generate an ISO and a VBox disk image (its needs fancy stuff in its EFI partition - the app takes care of that)
Make the virtual disk at least 60GB
Create a new VM in Virtual box - but use the disk virtual disk previously created - and the ISO image.
Run the VM and install Catalina onto your new virtual disk
when it’s up and running, you’ll find you cant use the mouse to drag windows.
a) Use screensharing to connect to the VM
b - alternatively, have the VM capture a USB mouse.


it sounds tricky but is not actually that hard to do

The Virtual Box forum is good for further assistance.

There are instructions for Mojave/Mojave here:

Apart from the mouse stuff, Catalina is not much different


On Jul 22, 2019, at 9:33 PM, Marius Kintel <[hidden email]> wrote:

On Jul 15, 2019, at 13:23, Paul Haeberli <[hidden email]> wrote:

I'm using Catalina 10.15 Beta.

I installed OpenSCAD, but when I try to run it, Catalina will not run it.

A dialog box appears that says:

  "OpenSCAD.app" can't be opened because its integrity cannot be verified.

  The software needs to be updated. Contact the developer for more
information.

Sometimes there will be more info in the system console; open Console.app and check if there are any entries for OpenSCAD under System Reports.

Do you know if 10.15 Beta is possible/easy to install in VirtualBox on a Mojave MacOS host?

-Marius


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Re: How get OpenSCAD running on macOS Catalina?

Paul Haeberli
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Very cool. Yes - that is me! I used to work at SGI. I'm still doing a bit of
3D work.

 I really like OpenSCAD for 3D printing!

Here's some logging info I got from Console.app:


default 22:10:05.200437-0500 Finder Found application <private> to open
application <private>
default 22:10:05.207071-0500 Finder _LSLaunch('<private>')
default 22:10:05.208642-0500 Finder LAUNCHING:0x0-0x6de6de OpenSCAD
foreground=1 bringForward=1 seed=616 userActivityCount=0
default 22:10:05.216279-0500 runningboardd _resolveProcessWithIdentifier
sysctl pid 10272 is euid 501
default 22:10:05.216516-0500 runningboardd Unable to obtain process
properties from launchd for pid=10272
default 22:10:05.218869-0500 runningboardd Resolved pid 10272 to
[executable<OpenSCAD(501)>:10272]
default 22:10:05.219933-0500 taskgated MacOS error: -67062
default 22:10:05.220621-0500 runningboardd [executable<OpenSCAD(501)>:10272]
This process will not be managed.
default 22:10:05.220657-0500 runningboardd Now tracking process:
[executable<OpenSCAD(501)>:10272]
default 22:10:05.221309-0500 runningboardd Acquiring assertion targeting
executable<OpenSCAD(501)> from originator
[daemon<com.apple.coreservices.launchservicesd>:184] with description
<RBSAssertionDescriptor; foregroundApp:10272; ID: 390-184-4082; target:
10272> attributes = {
    <RBSDomainAttribute: 0x7ffc18c113e0; domain: com.apple.launchservicesd;
name: RoleUserInteractiveNonFocal; sourceEnvironment: 0x0>;
}
default 22:10:05.221463-0500 runningboardd Assertion 390-184-4082
(target:executable<OpenSCAD(501)>) will be created as active
default 22:10:05.222469-0500 runningboardd [executable<OpenSCAD(501)>:10272]
Ignoring jetsam update because this process is not memory-managed
default 22:10:05.222835-0500 runningboardd [executable<OpenSCAD(501)>:10272]
Ignoring resume because this process is not lifecycle managed
default 22:10:05.222987-0500 runningboardd Finished acquiring assertion
390-184-4082 (target:executable<OpenSCAD(501)>)
default 22:10:05.223157-0500 runningboardd [executable<OpenSCAD(501)>:10272]
Set darwin role to: UserInteractiveNonFocal
default 22:10:05.223293-0500 runningboardd [executable<OpenSCAD(501)>:10272]
Ignoring GPU update because this process is not GPU managed
default 22:10:05.223639-0500 runningboardd Acquiring assertion targeting
executable<OpenSCAD(501)> from originator
[daemon<com.apple.coreservices.launchservicesd>:184] with description
<RBSAssertionDescriptor; foregroundApp:10272; ID: 390-184-4083; target:
10272> attributes = {
    <RBSDomainAttribute: 0x7ffc18e2d280; domain: com.apple.launchservicesd;
name: RoleUserInteractiveNonFocal; sourceEnvironment: 0x0>;
}
default 22:10:05.224940-0500 Finder OSStatus _LSLaunch(LSContext *, FSNode
*, LSLaunchFlags, void *, CFArrayRef, const AppleEvent *, const AEDescList
*, CFArrayRef, CFDictionaryRef, LSBundleID, const audit_token_t *, const
_LSOpen2Options *, ProcessSerialNumber *, Boolean *, NSError **): launching
'<private>' result=0
default 22:10:05.223922-0500 runningboardd Assertion 390-184-4083
(target:executable<OpenSCAD(501)>) will be created as active
default 22:10:05.225565-0500 CommCenter #I handleLSNotitifcation_sync:
Application launched: <private>
default 22:10:05.225971-0500 loginwindow -[PersistentAppsSupport
applicationLaunched:] | enter. clearing logout in progress and last logout
time
default 22:10:05.226005-0500 loginwindow -[PersistentAppsSupport
applicationReady:] | App: OpenSCAD, ready, updating active tracking timer
default 22:10:05.226027-0500 loginwindow -[PersistentAppsSupport(Internal)
updateActiveTrackingTimer] | Creating timer
default 22:10:05.226072-0500 loginwindow -[ApplicationManager
checkInAppContext:eventData:] | ApplicationManager: Checked in app :
OpenSCAD
default 22:10:05.226334-0500 runningboardd Finished acquiring assertion
390-184-4083 (target:executable<OpenSCAD(501)>)
default 22:10:05.226474-0500 runningboardd Invalidating assertion
390-184-4082 (target:executable<OpenSCAD(501)>) from originator 184
default 22:10:05.249099-0500 hidd [HID] [MT] dispatchEvent Dispatching event
with 2 children, _eventMask=0x42 _childEventMask=0x42 Cancel=0 Touching=0
inRange=1
default 22:10:05.253417-0500 tccd PID[216] is checking access for target
PID[10272]
default 22:10:05.257631-0500 tccd MacOS error: -67062
error 22:10:05.260011-0500 tccd Failed to copy signing info for 10272,
responsible for file:///Applications/OpenSCAD.app/Contents/MacOS/OpenSCAD:
#-67062: Error Domain=NSOSStatusErrorDomain Code=-67062 "(null)"
default 22:10:05.262342-0500 tccd MacOS error: -67062
error 22:10:05.265543-0500 syspolicyd Unable to get certificates array:
(null)
default 22:10:05.265074-0500 tccd Service kTCCServiceDeveloperTool does not
allow prompting; returning denied.
default 22:10:05.271385-0500 mds directQueryFetchResultsReply 106497
1795162112 35 at qos 0x15
default 22:10:05.272326-0500 Spotlight [Apps query] found items (
    "<CSSearchableItem:0x6000029a5980; uid=32608478-1795162112,
contentType=com.apple.application-bundle>"
)




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Re: How get OpenSCAD running on macOS Catalina?

Marius Kintel
Error -67062 does mean that the app isn’t signed. You should still be able to bypass it, but I’m not familiar with macOS beta features. I’m out traveling so I won’t be able to look at this for a while. If you could test other unsigned apps, that could be a good data point.

 -Marius

> On Jul 23, 2019, at 23:17, Paul Haeberli <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Very cool. Yes - that is me! I used to work at SGI. I'm still doing a bit of
> 3D work.
>
> I really like OpenSCAD for 3D printing!
>
> Here's some logging info I got from Console.app:
>
>
> default    22:10:05.200437-0500    Finder    Found application <private> to open
> application <private>
> default    22:10:05.207071-0500    Finder    _LSLaunch('<private>')
> default    22:10:05.208642-0500    Finder    LAUNCHING:0x0-0x6de6de OpenSCAD
> foreground=1 bringForward=1 seed=616 userActivityCount=0
> default    22:10:05.216279-0500    runningboardd    _resolveProcessWithIdentifier
> sysctl pid 10272 is euid 501
> default    22:10:05.216516-0500    runningboardd    Unable to obtain process
> properties from launchd for pid=10272
> default    22:10:05.218869-0500    runningboardd    Resolved pid 10272 to
> [executable<OpenSCAD(501)>:10272]
> default    22:10:05.219933-0500    taskgated    MacOS error: -67062
> default    22:10:05.220621-0500    runningboardd    [executable<OpenSCAD(501)>:10272]
> This process will not be managed.
> default    22:10:05.220657-0500    runningboardd    Now tracking process:
> [executable<OpenSCAD(501)>:10272]
> default    22:10:05.221309-0500    runningboardd    Acquiring assertion targeting
> executable<OpenSCAD(501)> from originator
> [daemon<com.apple.coreservices.launchservicesd>:184] with description
> <RBSAssertionDescriptor; foregroundApp:10272; ID: 390-184-4082; target:
> 10272> attributes = {
>    <RBSDomainAttribute: 0x7ffc18c113e0; domain: com.apple.launchservicesd;
> name: RoleUserInteractiveNonFocal; sourceEnvironment: 0x0>;
> }
> default    22:10:05.221463-0500    runningboardd    Assertion 390-184-4082
> (target:executable<OpenSCAD(501)>) will be created as active
> default    22:10:05.222469-0500    runningboardd    [executable<OpenSCAD(501)>:10272]
> Ignoring jetsam update because this process is not memory-managed
> default    22:10:05.222835-0500    runningboardd    [executable<OpenSCAD(501)>:10272]
> Ignoring resume because this process is not lifecycle managed
> default    22:10:05.222987-0500    runningboardd    Finished acquiring assertion
> 390-184-4082 (target:executable<OpenSCAD(501)>)
> default    22:10:05.223157-0500    runningboardd    [executable<OpenSCAD(501)>:10272]
> Set darwin role to: UserInteractiveNonFocal
> default    22:10:05.223293-0500    runningboardd    [executable<OpenSCAD(501)>:10272]
> Ignoring GPU update because this process is not GPU managed
> default    22:10:05.223639-0500    runningboardd    Acquiring assertion targeting
> executable<OpenSCAD(501)> from originator
> [daemon<com.apple.coreservices.launchservicesd>:184] with description
> <RBSAssertionDescriptor; foregroundApp:10272; ID: 390-184-4083; target:
> 10272> attributes = {
>    <RBSDomainAttribute: 0x7ffc18e2d280; domain: com.apple.launchservicesd;
> name: RoleUserInteractiveNonFocal; sourceEnvironment: 0x0>;
> }
> default    22:10:05.224940-0500    Finder    OSStatus _LSLaunch(LSContext *, FSNode
> *, LSLaunchFlags, void *, CFArrayRef, const AppleEvent *, const AEDescList
> *, CFArrayRef, CFDictionaryRef, LSBundleID, const audit_token_t *, const
> _LSOpen2Options *, ProcessSerialNumber *, Boolean *, NSError **): launching
> '<private>' result=0
> default    22:10:05.223922-0500    runningboardd    Assertion 390-184-4083
> (target:executable<OpenSCAD(501)>) will be created as active
> default    22:10:05.225565-0500    CommCenter    #I handleLSNotitifcation_sync:
> Application launched: <private>
> default    22:10:05.225971-0500    loginwindow    -[PersistentAppsSupport
> applicationLaunched:] | enter. clearing logout in progress and last logout
> time
> default    22:10:05.226005-0500    loginwindow    -[PersistentAppsSupport
> applicationReady:] | App: OpenSCAD, ready, updating active tracking timer
> default    22:10:05.226027-0500    loginwindow    -[PersistentAppsSupport(Internal)
> updateActiveTrackingTimer] | Creating timer
> default    22:10:05.226072-0500    loginwindow    -[ApplicationManager
> checkInAppContext:eventData:] | ApplicationManager: Checked in app :
> OpenSCAD
> default    22:10:05.226334-0500    runningboardd    Finished acquiring assertion
> 390-184-4083 (target:executable<OpenSCAD(501)>)
> default    22:10:05.226474-0500    runningboardd    Invalidating assertion
> 390-184-4082 (target:executable<OpenSCAD(501)>) from originator 184
> default    22:10:05.249099-0500    hidd    [HID] [MT] dispatchEvent Dispatching event
> with 2 children, _eventMask=0x42 _childEventMask=0x42 Cancel=0 Touching=0
> inRange=1
> default    22:10:05.253417-0500    tccd    PID[216] is checking access for target
> PID[10272]
> default    22:10:05.257631-0500    tccd    MacOS error: -67062
> error    22:10:05.260011-0500    tccd    Failed to copy signing info for 10272,
> responsible for file:///Applications/OpenSCAD.app/Contents/MacOS/OpenSCAD:
> #-67062: Error Domain=NSOSStatusErrorDomain Code=-67062 "(null)"
> default    22:10:05.262342-0500    tccd    MacOS error: -67062
> error    22:10:05.265543-0500    syspolicyd    Unable to get certificates array:
> (null)
> default    22:10:05.265074-0500    tccd    Service kTCCServiceDeveloperTool does not
> allow prompting; returning denied.
> default    22:10:05.271385-0500    mds    directQueryFetchResultsReply 106497
> 1795162112 35 at qos 0x15
> default    22:10:05.272326-0500    Spotlight    [Apps query] found items (
>    "<CSSearchableItem:0x6000029a5980; uid=32608478-1795162112,
> contentType=com.apple.application-bundle>"
> )
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Re: How get OpenSCAD running on macOS Catalina?

Paul Haeberli
I'm happy to try some other unsigned apps and see what happens.  Can anyone

suggest some places to download unsigned apps for macOS? I don't know where
to

find unsigned apps right now.

Thx.

-Paul



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Re: How get OpenSCAD running on macOS Catalina?

boxcarmib
Holding down the ctrl key while clicking on OpenSCAD should launch and bring up an “open” dialog.

Here’s a screen cap of the successful launch of OpenSCAD on Catalina….




Code signing and notarization is going to be an ongoing issue and we’ll probably need to pop for the $100 annual developer account if we want this to ever go away.




On Jul 24, 2019, at 11:13 AM, Paul Haeberli <[hidden email]> wrote:

I'm happy to try some other unsigned apps and see what happens.  Can anyone

suggest some places to download unsigned apps for macOS? I don't know where
to

find unsigned apps right now.

Thx.

-Paul



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Re: How get OpenSCAD running on macOS Catalina?

Paul Haeberli
I tried holding down the ctrl key while clicking on OpenSCAD but that

still fails for me in exactly the same way as double clicking on the

application. I'd be happy to donate $100.00 so you can join the

developer program.







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Re: How get OpenSCAD running on macOS Catalina?

boxcarmib
Sorry… I was probably was incorrect… I do things so automatically at times I forget the sequence.

I think it’s, hold down the control key, left-click (or secondary click) on OpenSCAD… select “Open”… when the dialog comes up complaining that it doesn’t conform properly, click “Open” anyway.
I’m pretty sure that’s the sequence.
Let me know if it doesn’t work.


> On Jul 24, 2019, at 7:40 PM, Paul Haeberli <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> I tried holding down the ctrl key while clicking on OpenSCAD but that
>
> still fails for me in exactly the same way as double clicking on the
>
> application. I'd be happy to donate $100.00 so you can join the
>
> developer program.
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Re: How get OpenSCAD running on macOS Catalina?

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Yeah, the $100 annual Apple fee is an inconvenience, which we'll probably have to extend to other platforms as well.
Apart from the fee, there's some automation work to do, as binaries are built on the CI. For macOS, we currently only build nightlies there, but that will hopefully change eventually.

I'm dreaming of cross-platform standardization in this domain, but that's probably not gonna happen : (

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Re: How get OpenSCAD running on macOS Catalina?

Paul Haeberli
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I plugged a physical mouse into my MacBook and it does not matter

which mouse button I use, I always get a dialog that says:

    "OpenSCAD.app' can't be opened because it's integrity cannot be
verified.
    This software needs to be updated. Contact the developer for more
information.

    Firefox downloaded this file on July 15, 2019

It shows two buttons with "Move to Trash" and "Cancel"

Maybe it worked for you because you compiled the app on your own machine?






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Re: How get OpenSCAD running on macOS Catalina?

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On Thu Jul 25 10:07:29 PDT 2019 [hidden email] said:
>I plugged a physical mouse into my MacBook and it does not matter

You might need to change
System Preferences -> Security & Privacy, "Allow apps downloaded from".



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Re: How get OpenSCAD running on macOS Catalina?

boxcarmib
To check things over I did a new install of virtual box, Catalina and OpenSCAD from the current binary on the website to my iMac and successfully launched the openscad app.
The only thing I can think of at this point is that I have the developer Catalina beta and I presume you have the open beta.

Has anyone had any success running openscad on a virtual box Catalina partition? I’m away from my computer for a few days but when I return and if this issue isn’t resolved I’ll download the public beta and see if I encounter problems.

Whether you are using a plug in mouse or trackpad should be immaterial.... as stated, all you should need to do is hold down the control key, secondary click on the OpenSCAD app... a menu should appear and you should primary click on”open” That should reveal the dialog you mention... but there should be a third option of “open”... it’s the use of the control key the makes the third option appear.

> On Jul 25, 2019, at 10:21 AM, John Lussmyer <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> On Thu Jul 25 10:07:29 PDT 2019 [hidden email] said:
>> I plugged a physical mouse into my MacBook and it does not matter
>
> You might need to change
> System Preferences -> Security & Privacy, "Allow apps downloaded from".
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Re: How get OpenSCAD running on macOS Catalina?

Paul Haeberli
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I had already selected "Allow apps downloaded from anywhere" in Security

and Privacy.



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Re: How get OpenSCAD running on macOS Catalina?

Paul Haeberli
Now I think that this is a Catalina bug.  I filed a bug with Apple and

they are investigating why it does not work on my machine. I'll let you

know if it is resolved.

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Re: How get OpenSCAD running on macOS Catalina?

Paul Haeberli
I just installed the latest beta of Catalina.

10.15 Beta (19A526h)

Works fine now.





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